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Black Spirituality Religion : Are less intelligent people always religious?

Discussion in 'Black Spirituality / Religion - General Discussion' started by info-moetry, Feb 13, 2012.

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  1. MS234

    MS234 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you. I've been saying this all along. Why is there a need to "follow" something not based on fact?
    Can't someone be righteous based on facts?

    You know what the word "assume" means. You never saw the old odd couple reruns? ***/out of /u/ and me.

    Thank you so much for saying this. Religion ALWAYS attempts to separate mankind from our surroundings. It assumes there's something greater, but IMO that's where religions falls short. There is NOTHING out THERE that's greater than us. THE UNIVERSE IS ONE. WE ARE ALL THE SAME GREATNESS. There is NO separation. Yes there is a higher power of course. Yes there should be appreciation for that power. But we are the SAME POWER just in a finite sense, that's all.

    Really? Not nowadays. Maybe it was hard when our ancestors first arrived here, the fact that religion was beaten into us. Funny you use oxygen. Because life is NOT based on faith. You can't breathe "faith".

    I KNOW if you lungs shut down, you won't be asking for a mask filled with "faith", you'll be BEGGING for oxygen.

    THANK YOU. That's what this WHOLE thread is ABOUT. Thank you for signing on.

    You were the one boasting about ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND DEGREES. Then when I suggest you measure your intelligence based on euroPEON standards, now my comment has nothing to do with what you said? When what I said was based on you your boasting.

    Thank you for your comment, and confirming the direction of this thread.

    I will highlight two very important points you made IMO.

    1. Religion isnt predicated on fact.
    2. Thus it isnt common sense.


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    I've always maintained I don't think it's a question of intelligence alone as opposed to fear, misinformation and gullibility. Though I do feel intelligence has to come into play at some point. At some point a person has to recognize what they are "following" and why.


    You need faith and belief that every breath you take actually sucks in life giving oxygen?????? Most have accepted this as scientific fact?????? You really don't have the knowledge??????? Ok cover your mouth with duck tape, cut off all access to air. Then let me know how faith will get air though the tape. NO CHEATING, like punching holes in tape. Just wait for "faith" to open an airway. When I see the ambulance pick up someone with in need of air, I see them use an "oxygen" mask, not a "faith" mask.

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    Since you have never actually measured the Kreb cycle or Oxygen, you dont know. You took what some scientist said on faith.


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    S - Entropy This is a law of thermodynamics which states the universe tends towards randomness. Meaning that eventually all things will happen by chance and eventually, all things, molecules, atoms will exist in an individual static state.

    The fact is, that the universe is quite ordered, by all measure. Thus giving rise to the potential of a unified field theory. Thus implying that something has ordered it


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    Now you're reaching. My lungs NEVER needed a scientist to justify or verify that I NEED to breathe air.

    Plus you've already made your point to the theme of this thread. You don't need to have the last word here. You've already made your case.
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    Nor is all sense common....
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    This is NOT a generalize of religious people or people who follow religion.

    I have always maintained that there are religious people who's hearts are in the right place. Then you have the ones who know "script" U R better than self knowledge, which by the way they reject and asked what is self knowledge? If one needs to ask, I wonder should one even render an answer. Recently we had someone have "allah" curse us. They claimed they didn't curse us, "allah" did. I read where in some cases a real fanatical religious person's mental health comes in question. I'm not saying that's the case here, but when something that transpires, it forces one to take everything in question. I've seen where a religious persons claim to accept the truth, but when confronted with the truth, they reject it.

    Religion separates man from the universe, from "god" if you may. The emphasis should be ALWAYS that we are THE UNIVERSE, WE ARE THE GOD.
    Finite gods with infinite potential.

    Religion has it right, IMO I feel there should be a code of conduct that people can live by which is conducive to living. Where people build each other and not destroy each other. My ONLY dispute with religion is its storyline, it's allergories, and it's anthropomorphisms.
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    I feel where you are coming from, that is why I try not to jump on people who do not believe in the same God that I do. The only thing that I can give you, and that I can give anyone who disputes the Bible, I have tried it, I have prayed to God, but I have never seen an angel or magical smoke, or the God that I worship physically. However, I have seen the actions in my life, I can not deny it. It is not a coincidence, so to me I believe it as truth. Of course there are other things but the main thing to me is the fact that I have tried it and He has never failed me. I don't think you are a bad dude because you don't believe in my God, only God can see the heart. I know that you do not generalize people because you and I have had a good conversation on the forums regarding a question that you asked. If someone challenges you on your beliefs, then that is a different story. That is what we all need to realize, the heart is in the right place, and may God lead us to the right path...... or they themselves find the right path.
    If some of us reject certain things then some how we have to come together. We have been dealing with this for a long time. White people do not all agree with the concept of God, but somehow they find a way to come together. We must do the same thing, it is not impossible. I have friends who do not believe what I believe, but we have a loving and caring relationship. My father does not believe what I believe, but we have a loving and caring relationship. We can do it too, to come together as a people and change things, we can do it too. I have to stop trivializing the feelings of my brothers and sisters who feel as though they have found the truth apart from the Christian God, others must stop trivializing the feelings that others have who feel as if they have found God. It is a hard task, but if white people can come together to silence us and mistreat us, can we not come together to free ourselves?
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    Maybe we should not call them less intelligent. Maybe, intellectually incurious might be more accurate.

    Intellectually curious people will, sooner or latter, reject religion --- at least how religion is commonly practiced. The hypocrisy, and the inconsistencies, will eventually cause intellectually curious people to reject religion.

    But, and I guess this would be the argument for not beating up on religious adherents, it is pointless to try and convince intellectually incurious people of the folly of religion. It is not that they are not intelligent enough to notice the inconsistencies. It is that they have reasons, very good reasons at least to them, not to look too hard for the man behind the curtain. Fear of being cursed to hell by some variation of the great and powerful Wizard of Oz is often one of those reasons:

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    Sometimes I feel like I am crying into the wilderness, to my sisters and brothers in Christ, and to my sisters and brothers who live in this world with me. It is heavy on my heart at moments....if only....
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    By the phrasing of this thread title, it looks like it must be YOUR standards that intelligence and religiosity are measured by.



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